We mixed up the revelation about the twin palm trees and the twin bowls of Zechariah and incorrectly thought it should be applied today.Vic Hall & Ray Jackson/Gary Worth (2013/2014), as best as can be remembered
In this case that teaching from Brisbane Christian Fellowship was actually about the fact that God is supposedly only pouring ‘present truth’ (new teachings) to and from a central pair of bowls. And then they admitted they got it wrong (above).
But here’s the thing:
- Note the irony re the nature of the retraction
- Where exactly are the BCF teachings coming from?
- Again, why are we expecting new teachings anyway?
The retraction was about the issue of infallibility and exclusivity of their ‘source’ of teachings.
No one listening to that warning bell?
Well I heard it.
Like the subtle donging bell when the T-Rex turns up at the cliff in JP II. Poor guy played by Toby from West Wing in the jeep. Listen for it next time. Or ever noticed the donging bell that some home teams play for the visiting team in a gridiron match . . at the end of an unsuccessful 3rd down?
It was the beginning of the end for me. Still wasted another 2 years at MCF though.
And then the, essentially word-for-word, quote from Brisbane Christian Fellowship above shows that it’s coming from ‘their thoughts’, their analysis etc. Even if it’s alleged ‘revelation’, it should be treated as very suspect until bolstered by Scripture and careful testing.
I’ve been in Vic Hall’s house when he’s working. He’s sitting at a desk like anyone with Bibles and notebooks open. Why do we believe that, since his alleged visitations, everything he stumbles upon is God directed? With all the harm they’ve caused and even admitted errors?
What if it’s ALL wrong?
Why should ANY of it that is not plainly stated in Scripture be . . right?
It sort of goes back to Brisbane Christian Fellowship’s theory on ‘sight’ of the elders. The elders supposedly had sight for our personal lives. And the presbytery and Vic Hall had sight, in particular, for the regional or even global church.
But why? Why should the BCF presbytery or Vic Hall have this sight?
Paul claimed to preach nothing but Christ and Him crucified (1 Cor 2:2). But BCF is revealing non-plain readings of Scripture on a seasonal basis. Why? Jesus is about to come back? But we were warned not to expect anything additional:
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.I Cor 4:6
Wow! It actually says it there. DO NOT go beyond what is written. And why? To not set one man above another! The original apostles came with signs and wonders at the opening of the Church age.
Vic Hall has only come with pride & ego. And appointed by a very fallen leader.
Restoration is one thing.
Inventing new stuff that’s barely visible in the Scriptures . . and unrecognizable in the manner in which the early Church lived?
That’s apostasy Brisbane Christian Fellowship.
The rest of the Church is content with Christ.
BCF, you can keep Vic Hall for yourself.